# Example CRUD app without Ember Data
**URL:** https://discuss.emberjs.com/t/example-crud-app-without-ember-data/2763
**Category:** Uncategorized
**Created:** [September 25, 2013, 1:06pm UTC](https://discuss.emberjs.com/t/example-crud-app-without-ember-data/2763 "2013-09-25T13:06:46Z")
**Posts on this page:** 3
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### Author:  [@tarasm](https://discuss.emberjs.com/u/tarasm)
#### Post date: [September 25, 2013, 1:06pm UTC](https://discuss.emberjs.com/t/example-crud-app-without-ember-data/2763/1 "2013-09-25T13:06:46Z")
I wrote an article for [Ember Sherpa](http://embersherpa.com) that shows how to write a [CRUD app without Ember Data](http://embersherpa.com/articles/crud-example-app-without-ember-data/).
Please, take a look and let me know what you think.
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### Author:  [@knownasilya](https://discuss.emberjs.com/u/knownasilya)
#### Post date: [September 25, 2013, 1:26pm UTC](https://discuss.emberjs.com/t/example-crud-app-without-ember-data/2763/2 "2013-09-25T13:26:07Z")
Looks interesting, maybe I’ll take some tips, since I’m not using ED in this current project, and my ‘models’ are a mess.
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### Author:  [@tarasm](https://discuss.emberjs.com/u/tarasm)
#### Post date: [September 25, 2013, 1:45pm UTC](https://discuss.emberjs.com/t/example-crud-app-without-ember-data/2763/3 "2013-09-25T13:45:47Z")
I’m planning to write follow up topics that will include things like Promises and Validation. I’d love to hear where your pain points are. If you have some time, I’d appreciate if you could share your experience of writing an app without Ember Data.