# Using ember data without ember

**URL:** <https://discuss.emberjs.com/t/using-ember-data-without-ember/7688>\
**Category:** Ember Data\
**Created:** [April 1, 2015, 9:51am UTC](https://discuss.emberjs.com/t/using-ember-data-without-ember/7688 "2015-04-01T09:51:28Z")\
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**Author:** ![pereira\_alex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b487fb/32.png) [@pereira\_alex](https://discuss.emberjs.com/u/pereira_alex)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2015, 9:51am UTC](https://discuss.emberjs.com/t/using-ember-data-without-ember/7688/1 "2015-04-01T09:51:28Z")

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Hi,

Is it possible to use ember data without ember ?

Context: I am developing a server api that will have clients in web ( ember js ) and desktop client. The desktop client will be done in Qt QML, that has/uses javascript.

Is it possible to put ember data in the desktop client and use it like a normal JS library without ember ? If not, any recommendations?

Thanks.