# Will ember-animated replace liquid-fire

**URL:** <https://discuss.emberjs.com/t/will-ember-animated-replace-liquid-fire/17133>\
**Category:** Questions\
**Created:** [October 16, 2019, 8:42am UTC](https://discuss.emberjs.com/t/will-ember-animated-replace-liquid-fire/17133 "2019-10-16T08:42:43Z")\
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**Author:** ![greyhwndz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/discuss.emberjs.com/greyhwndz/32/11246_2.png) [@greyhwndz](https://discuss.emberjs.com/u/greyhwndz)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2019, 8:42am UTC](https://discuss.emberjs.com/t/will-ember-animated-replace-liquid-fire/17133/1 "2019-10-16T08:42:43Z")

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Can `ember-animated` replace `liquid-fire`?

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**Author:** ![viniciussbs](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/discuss.emberjs.com/viniciussbs/32/16394_2.png) [@viniciussbs](https://discuss.emberjs.com/u/viniciussbs)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2019, 2:09pm UTC](https://discuss.emberjs.com/t/will-ember-animated-replace-liquid-fire/17133/2 "2019-10-16T14:09:46Z")

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I was asking me the same question this week but didn’t take the time to search about it since I can’t dive into it now. This is what I’ve found: [Using Liquid Fire vs. Ember Animated today · Issue #79 · ember-animation/ember-animated · GitHub](https://github.com/ember-animation/ember-animated/issues/79). So I guess you can replace `liquid-fire` by `ember-animated` depending of your usage.

@samselikoff is doing a serie of videos on Ember Map covering this topic. I haven’t watched it yet, but I guess the last one was about doing route transitions animations - probably without `liquid-fire`.

This part of the app I’m working on was done by another developer and I haven’t touched this code yet, so this is a very naive opinion about the topic.

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**Author:** ![dknutsen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/discuss.emberjs.com/dknutsen/32/16471_2.png) [@dknutsen](https://discuss.emberjs.com/u/dknutsen)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2019, 2:38pm UTC](https://discuss.emberjs.com/t/will-ember-animated-replace-liquid-fire/17133/3 "2019-10-16T14:38:13Z")

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I believe the intent is to use ember-animated as under-the-hood animation implementation for the new version of liquid-fire. They do some similar things but ember-animated is a lower-level set of abstractions. You can probably use ember-animated to do most-all of what you want but it might be more work than with something like liquid-fire, especially animating across routes and such.

See [this note in the liquid-fire changelog](https://github.com/ember-animation/liquid-fire/blob/a3f2ec37f0cb45668c10bce3d7e7f4720a1872a7/CHANGELOG.md#0300). I think @ef4 may have mentioned this in his original ember-animated talk at EmberConf but I can’t remember exactly.

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**Author:** ![ef4](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/discuss.emberjs.com/ef4/32/13470_2.png) [@ef4](https://discuss.emberjs.com/u/ef4)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2019, 5:13pm UTC](https://discuss.emberjs.com/t/will-ember-animated-replace-liquid-fire/17133/4 "2019-10-16T17:13:13Z")

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Yes, @dknutsen is correct. I want to refactor liquid-fire so it uses ember-animated.

ember-animated is only about components. It doesn’t have a concept like `app/transitions.js`, which is a feature that would stay in liquid-fire.